Author: David Christopher Lane Publisher: The NEURAL SURFER Publication date: April 1997
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Dick replies: I have two daughters. In fact, this morning my older daughter returned from spending the night with one of her girl friends. Both are interested in art and the other girl's father is a middle school principal. Neither of them drive. Seems they made were driven to the house by a male classmate. He waited in the car. I asked my daughter why he was hiding out there in the automobile. She informed me that I had a rather poor reputation among her friends. I stared at her incredulously. My dear wife chips in, "Yes, the word anti-Christ is often mentioned in their comments." Why worry about about one's daughter's decisions when one can intimidate an entire population of teenage boys? I find the analogy between wives and gurus cumbersome. I don't know if you've ever gone through the heartache of infidelity or if it is in the same hypothetical class as your daughters. Throughout history, cuckolded husbands have offered various responses to infidelity from understanding and forgiveness to death. I'm not sure that the guru/chela relationship is one of faith. Can a teacher cheat his students? DAVID Lane replies: Yes, just think of what Thakar Singh tells his disciples. He claims a number of things and lies about who he is. He "cheats" them by misleading them. When they realize it ("Hey, Thakar, get your woodman out of my mouth"), they may feel quite cheated. Cheated by his dishonesty, cheated by being misled and wasting their time with his antics, etc. DICK WRITES: O Can students cheat the teacher? Well, the teacher could fail to offer his best performance. The student could fail in the same manner. Is it cheating? Has a contract of faith beeen betrayed? DAVID LANE REPLIES: Yes, a contract of faith has been betrayed. The guru is not what he proclaims himself to be. That in itself is a breach of the implicit (and, at times, explicit) contract between the disciple and his guru. What is that contract? Well, in Thakar's case, it is quite clear and he is just as clear that he breaks it.... along with the hearts of his abused disciples. I am using Thakar since his extremity clarifies this issue. DICK WRITES: OIs love negotiable? Can the cultural institution of marriage survive as women gain greater freedom? Where do I write to my guru certification board? DAVID LANE REPLIES: Well, I have a guru certification board..... just send 100 dollars to ....... just teasing...... We are that certifying board and every time we lower the standards we pay a dear price for it. ---------------------------- DICK WRITES: Since you're not real crazy about Sant Mat theology, how about a brief exposition of your take on Advaita Vedanta? DAVID LANE REPLIES: EVERYTHING IS CONSCIOUSNESS; CONSCIOUSNESS IS EVERYTHING YOU AND I ARISE IN THAT FIELD; that field lives us. -------------------------------- Nathan Writes: A very well written article. So maybe I was wrong about David Lane. He isn't stupid at all. He's merely physical, and only unconsciously intolerant, biased, and unethical. It's not his fault, though. After all these years, when he reads this post by Doug, he'll realize why he has analyzed everything from the the surface levels only (i.e. physical), ignoring their depths (i.e. intuitive or "mandalic") completely. So, in the next few days, we will expect him to make a public apology for all the misunderstandings he has created because of his ignorance of his own nature, and he will close down his web page, refute his long standing attacks against Eckankar and other religions, advise David Rife and Raphael to do the same and retire from a.r.e., or, even better, spend the next 20 odd years of his life telling the world all the positive things about Eckankar he somehow never bothered mentioning before. Am I right, David? Living and Loving in Eck, Nathan DAVID LANE REPLIES: Before I reply, please make certain that your kids are safe, since you once mentioned that you feared for your kids' safety when I was online............. (just teasing you, my friend.... signed: Kal boy) Sorry to disappoint you, Nathan, but you are not right once again. As for Doug's essays, I really enjoyed them. They were quite interesting and he brought up some very pertinent points--especially with regard to guru successorship. I also like your weekly posts about me and my biases. keep up the good work, dave ---------------------------------------- Steve R. Writes: So what? The concepts behind those words are universal. Even Davy Lane's beloved Charan Singh approved of Paul's writing about the Light and Sound of God. DAVY LANE REPLIES: Steve, Charan Singh did not approve of Twitchell's plagiarism. I know because he wrote to me about it. To say he "approved" of Paul's writing about the Light and Sound of God is a bit disengaging. signed: wavy davey
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